The Generation XXX Show
The Generation XXX Show
The Generation XXX Show: Episode 5 Marriage between One Man and One Woman
Music:
Subject: Spiritually Naked and Unashamed
Introduction: Headliner: George Takei is free to “Marry” his homosexual partner of 21 years, Thanks to the State of California Supreme Court’s decision overturning the ban on gay marriage. We’re talking about it, On the Generation XXX Show
Main Content:
We’re talking about marriage today and its fitting that we are given the recent develops in Massachusetts and California legalizing “gay marriage”.
George Takei, who played Sulu on Star Trek has publicly acknowledge his marriage to his long time homosexual partner who is also his manager.
Is this gay bashing day? No not really.
What we want to examine is “homosexual marriage” even possible?
Marcos Bretón writes: SACbee.com
There was a time I would have been deeply against same-sex marriage. The sight of men kissing and expressing love openly would have made me very uncomfortable.
After all, my church frowned on homosexuality and so did everyone I admired and liked. And so long as these feelings were not examined, they were easy to maintain.
It's clear that opponents of gay marriage will try to appeal to such feelings when working to defeat same-sex unions at the ballot box this November. We'll hear Bible passages. Some people will cite the tradition of marriage as a bond between a man
and a woman; others will argue marriage should be only for those who procreate.
Some will wonder why gays aren't satisfied with civil unions. The arguments will stream forth – shouted from street corners or harbored secretly – and they will
come from the same place: from those who feel uncomfortable around and disapprove of gay people.
If you feel this way, I'm not condemning you. I was you, but not anymore. There have been too many gay friends who have become like family. There has been too much time to consider our Constitution, which states that all men are created equal. In California, proponents of same-sex marriage convinced the highest court in the state based on legal arguments – not rhetoric, Bible passages or appeals of tradition – that the same logic applies to gay couples. A majority of the California Supreme Court ruled that " … past California cases establish beyond question that the right to marry is a fundamental right whose protection is guaranteed to all persons by the California Constitution."
He brings up a good point. Do we stand against homosexual marriage because we are afraid of gay people, that they make us feel uncomfortable?
Should we ban homosexual marriage based on procreation?
Is it fruitful to continue to bring out the familiar Bible passages such as Romans 1:24-27
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
The Actual Decision
The legal issue we must resolve is not whether it would be constitutionally permissible under the California Constitution for the state to limit marriage only to opposite-sex couples while denying same-sex couples any opportunity to enter into an official relationship with all or virtually all of the same substantive attributes, but rather whether our state Constitution prohibits the state from establishing a statutory scheme in which both opposite-sex and same-sex couples are granted the right to enter into an officially recognized family relationship that affords all of the significant legal rights and obligations traditionally associated under state law with the institution of marriage, but under which the union of an opposite-sex couple is officially designated a “marriage” whereas the union of a same-sex couple is officially designated a “domestic partnership.” The question we must address is whether, under these circumstances, the failure to designate the official relationship of same-sex couples as marriage violates the California Constitution.
Or is there something else that we can point to that is greater?
The Brackets of the Bible
Genesis and Revelation bracket Marriage between a bridegroom and a bride.
What was the original state of Adam?
Read: Genesis 2:18-20
18. Then the Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.”
19. Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name.
20.The man gave names to all the cattle, and to the birds of the sky, and to every beast of the field, but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him.
Commercial Break:
Re-Introduction: We’re looking at marriage and asking as simple question, what does marriage in the bible point us to?
2nd Main Content:
Read Genesis 2:21-22
21. So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place.
22. The Lord God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.
23. The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”
24. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
25. And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.
Naked and Unashamed
Does this sound familiar to the Christian ear?
Read John 19:30,34 20:15-18
30. Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit.
34. But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out---
15. Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?” Supposing Him to be the gardener, she said to Him, “Sir, if you have carried Him away, tell me where you have laid Him, and I will take Him away.”
16. Jesus said to her, “Mary!” She turned and said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means, Teacher).
17. Jesus said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’ ”
18. Mary Magdalene came, announcing to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord,” and that He had said these things to her.
Mary Magdalene, formally a whore, represents the New Eve
Spiritually Naked and Unashamed
Conclusion:
We need new stories of redemption.
Closing Music:
The Generation XXX Show: Episode 5 Marriage between One Man and One Woman
Music:
Subject: Spiritually Naked and Unashamed
Introduction: Headliner: George Takei is free to “Marry” his homosexual partner of 21 years, Thanks to the State of California Supreme Court’s decision overturning the ban on gay marriage. We’re talking about it, On the Generation XXX Show
Main Content:
We’re talking about marriage today and its fitting that we are given the recent develops in Massachusetts and California legalizing “gay marriage”.
George Takei, who played Sulu on Star Trek has publicly acknowledge his marriage to his long time homosexual partner who is also his manager.
Is this gay bashing day? No not really.
What we want to examine is “homosexual marriage” even possible?
Marcos Bretón writes: SACbee.com
There was a time I would have been deeply against same-sex marriage. The sight of men kissing and expressing love openly would have made me very uncomfortable.
After all, my church frowned on homosexuality and so did everyone I admired and liked. And so long as these feelings were not examined, they were easy to maintain.
It's clear that opponents of gay marriage will try to appeal to such feelings when working to defeat same-sex unions at the ballot box this November. We'll hear Bible passages. Some people will cite the tradition of marriage as a bond between a man
and a woman; others will argue marriage should be only for those who procreate.
Some will wonder why gays aren't satisfied with civil unions. The arguments will stream forth – shouted from street corners or harbored secretly – and they will
come from the same place: from those who feel uncomfortable around and disapprove of gay people.
If you feel this way, I'm not condemning you. I was you, but not anymore. There have been too many gay friends who have become like family. There has been too much time to consider our Constitution, which states that all men are created equal. In California, proponents of same-sex marriage convinced the highest court in the state based on legal arguments – not rhetoric, Bible passages or appeals of tradition – that the same logic applies to gay couples. A majority of the California Supreme Court ruled that " … past California cases establish beyond question that the right to marry is a fundamental right whose protection is guaranteed to all persons by the California Constitution."
He brings up a good point. Do we stand against homosexual marriage because we are afraid of gay people, that they make us feel uncomfortable?
Should we ban homosexual marriage based on procreation?
Is it fruitful to continue to bring out the familiar Bible passages such as Romans 1:24-27
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
The Actual Decision
The legal issue we must resolve is not whether it would be constitutionally permissible under the California Constitution for the state to limit marriage only to opposite-sex couples while denying same-sex couples any opportunity to enter into an official relationship with all or virtually all of the same substantive attributes, but rather whether our state Constitution prohibits the state from establishing a statutory scheme in which both opposite-sex and same-sex couples are granted the right to enter into an officially recognized family relationship that affords all of the significant legal rights and obligations traditionally associated under state law with the institution of marriage, but under which the union of an opposite-sex couple is officially designated a “marriage” whereas the union of a same-sex couple is officially designated a “domestic partnership.” The question we must address is whether, under these circumstances, the failure to designate the official relationship of same-sex couples as marriage violates the California Constitution.
Or is there something else that we can point to that is greater?
The Brackets of the Bible
Genesis and Revelation bracket Marriage between a bridegroom and a bride.
What was the original state of Adam?
Read: Genesis 2:18-20
18. Then the Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.”
19. Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name.
20.The man gave names to all the cattle, and to the birds of the sky, and to every beast of the field, but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him.
Commercial Break:
Re-Introduction: We’re looking at marriage and asking as simple question, what does marriage in the bible point us to?
2nd Main Content:
Read Genesis 2:21-22
21. So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place.
22. The Lord God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.
23. The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”
24. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
25. And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.
Naked and Unashamed
Does this sound familiar to the Christian ear?
Read John 19:30,34 20:15-18
30. Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit.
34. But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out---
15. Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?” Supposing Him to be the gardener, she said to Him, “Sir, if you have carried Him away, tell me where you have laid Him, and I will take Him away.”
16. Jesus said to her, “Mary!” She turned and said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means, Teacher).
17. Jesus said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’ ”
18. Mary Magdalene came, announcing to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord,” and that He had said these things to her.
Mary Magdalene, formally a whore, represents the New Eve
Spiritually Naked and Unashamed
Conclusion:
We need new stories of redemption.
Closing Music: